Talk:Hokey Wolf (character)

Despite Hokey being the main protagonist (and most of the episodes focusing on his point of view). He could also be considered the main antagonist because of his actions which include coning people for food or a place to stay and often setting up schemes. He seems to do it with a ease, despite possible consequences later on. -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 21:00, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Timber Wolves

Since they were mentioned as "Timber Wolves" by the witch in the episode, "Which Witch is Which", I thought it would be important to reference that. -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 07:22, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

Doppelgänger?

For some reason, I would consider Hokey to be the "Doppelgänger" of Yogi. Maybe the more villainous doppelgänger? I have seen some people out there pointing out that he was a "ripoff" of Yogi, but I couldn't exactly tell if he's a ripoff or just a similar-looking character in a sense (and being a "ripoff" based on physical appearance doesn't count). -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 22:40, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

I guess in some ways they are the same, but I'm not sure if he should be considered a complete doppelgänger of Yogi. Hokey was always acting like was doing a sales pitch, while Yogi would try and smart mouth his way of a situation. Hokey was always trying to get something, while one short of Yogi's just had him in some forest, where it became overrun with drivers. From what I remember, Hokey didn't always come off as friendly, unlike Yogi. Ding-a-Ling never really felt like Boo Boo. I'd have to look back, but Ding-a-Ling felt more like an assistant than a friend. Speaking of doppelgängers, isn't that what Mildew Wolf is to Hokey? -- MisterJames (talk) 08:06, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

I guess your right on this, I feel Hokey was more "meaner" than Yogi was. Yeah and I would also consider Wilford Wolf from The Kwicky Koala Show a doppelgänger of Mildew, considering he does nearly the same thing (not to mention that Wilford's voice actor had to do a Paul Lynde impression). -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 08:26, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Loopy De Loop started the HB Wolf protagonists' line (since he was the oldest HB Wolf), I think some wolves (possibly prototypes of Hokey and Ding-a-Ling, given the bigger one used a Phil Slivers impression) appeared in one of the early Huckleberry Hound shorts. -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 05:37, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

I think a drastic difference emerges once you see both of their shows in comparison. Their personalities are almost completely different:

• Yogi: A goofy, silly troublemaking con artist, who would constantly get in trouble with Ranger Smith for taking picnic baskets.
• Boo Boo: Yogi's constant companion who often acts as his conscience. Despite being Yogi's sidekick, Boo Boo isn't exactly altogether "royal" to Yogi at times.

Here's Hokey's and Ding's:

• Hokey: Mean-spirited fast talking con artist who takes the opportunity of doing stuff his way, which usually gets him into hugh trouble at the end.
• Ding-a-Ling: Hokey's companion who would follow in his con artist footsteps. Unlike Boo Boo, Ding seems to be more royal to Hokey than Boo Boo is to Yogi.

There were some examples I give. I also know that Hokey is the smarter one of the wolves while Ding is just his supporter. Unlike Boo Boo, Ding wasn't seen with Hokey much in later appearances, I'm guessing their friendship probably wasn't working out much. There is also no Ranger Smith Doppelgänger in Hokey's cartoons, while there was in Top Cat, Breezely and Sneezely, Dirty Dawg and Crazy Claws. I know there was Farmer Smith, but he didn't appear much to count as a main character and he wasn't important much to the show ether, not to mention the multiple different characters with that name. -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 08:04, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

After reading some users comment on a blog about Hokey. I'm pretty convinced he isn't a "clone" or "ripoff" of Yogi, according to the user Hokey was made similar to keep the same feel as if Yogi was still there on the show. But unfortunately, instead people mistake him as a clone because they likely see the images of Hokey and say "yeah, this is a clone..." -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 16:57, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

Isn't Ding-a-Ling just the same in personality as Blabber Mouse? Both idolize "their hero" and both help out in such situations. Speaking of which, after Boo Boo first appeared almost every animal character stated to get a sidekick. Perhaps the Yogi formatting with the sidekick was popular at the time - Huck didn't really have a sidekick and nether Pixie or Dixie were exactly a sidekick (maybe Dixie's supposed to be one?). There was also Ruff from Ruff and Reddy, but he seemed more partly in charge than a sidekick. -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 18:06, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

I don't find Ding-a-Ling to be as memorable as Blabber. I remember exactly how Blabber would say, "Schnoop is my hero." I could pretend that Ding-a-Ling is that way too, and he probably is, but I'd be lying if I said I remembered him perfectly. -- MisterJames (talk) 19:02, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

To be completely fair though, he did reuse the later concept of Yogi Bear, which mostly involved around him getting food. I don't find Hokey a complete copy as his main purpose of existing was to be a replacement of Yogi on The Huckleberry Hound Show, for some reason though, some people consider Snagglepuss a Yogi clone and I did see Snagglepuss' own show, it didn't always involve around him getting food, there was a short where Snagglepuss signed up for a football team and another one where a female mountain lion stayed in his cave, and refused to leave because of hunting season, I don't find much similarities there. -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 23:56, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

I mean there were some Hokey shorts that didn't appear to already be used for Yogi like in "Sick Sense" where he fools a animal hospital doctor into faking that he had a rare disease, and in "Booty on the Bounty" where he tricks an assistant game warden into turning himself and Ding in to collect a 50 dollar each reward, then bails himself and Ding out at a cheap cost, then of course does the same scenario on repeat living a wealthy runt. -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 00:07, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Huck Book

In the Huckleberry Hound book, Huckleberry Hound: The Case of the Friendly Monster Hokey and Ding (who were for some reason were named "Harry and Charlie", I'm guessing their supposed to be different characters from Hokey and Ding) were actually the villains with no real reason given, as they kidnapped Huckleberry. I was actually surprised because I didn't know there was an actual book depicting them as "evildoers". -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 08:00, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

Mindboggling. But I would call the page: The Case of the Friendly Monster. -- MisterJames (talk) 17:05, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

That sounds better, it would be better if the book was called: Huckleberry Hound "The Case of the Friendly Monster" -- It was spell with " around The Case of the Friendly Monster part. -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 17:15, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

No, what I meant was, not just the grammar, but the name of the book itself. The "Huckleberry Hound" part and "The Case of the Friendly Monster" part feel independent from each other. Either that, or it's "Huckleberry Hound: The Case of the Friendly Monster". -- MisterJames (talk) 19:34, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

I've changed it to "Huckleberry Hound: The Case of the Friendly Monster". Does that work? I'm also curious as to what year the book was made in. I'll probably have to look it up. -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 20:21, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

Ah okay, it says "1978" in the books' copyright, meaning they most likely ran out of villain ideas, so they reused Hokey's and Ding-a-Ling's model sheets. -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 20:27, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

DC Comics does that all the time in their Scooby-Doo comics. And I think the new name for the Huckleberry Hound book works. -- MisterJames (talk) 20:56, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

I still don't think the quotation marks are entirely necessary. -- MisterJames (talk) 20:59, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

You got a point there, I'll remove them. -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 21:15, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

Treasure Hunt episodes

I'm going to go through the Treasure Hunt episodes and mark Hokey's appearances so we know which episodes he appeared in. -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 07:53, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

I'm done adding his appearances. You can find them on my user page. -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 09:46, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

It would definitely be interesting if I could do the same with every guest star. -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 09:49, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Tan

In later appearances, his fur looks more tan than brown. -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 17:55, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Birdman

I don't exactly know what goes on in that universe with Hokey - He's usually a mysterious background character in some episodes with no lines who usually has a cigarette in his mouth (which actually makes sense because there was a "Give-a-Show Projector" where he was smoking[1]) and (from my understanding) he might also be an Attorney himself, since he is seen at the board meeting among the others in "Peanut Puberty". -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 05:57, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

And yes, smoking in kids cartoons was allowed back then (I think). -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 07:53, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Jellystone Jollies issue 10

Jellystone Jollies issue 10 depicts him living in Jellystone Park. -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 17:41, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

LaL backstories

Through some of the comics. We got pages like this one. Hokey and Wally have some pretty awesome backstories in LaL. -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 00:32, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

BTW, this doesn't exactly relate, but here's some more interesting art of the Huckleberry Hound Show, since it features Hokey and Ding-a-Ling, I would say it either came out in the 60s or 70s. -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 03:00, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

I added Hokey's backstory on his article under "Laff-a-Lympics". -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 00:42, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

I think I would put that under the comics version since that's where it came from. -- MisterJames (talk) 11:42, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

I don't exactly know, I would say yes, but I think it refers to the series version as well. I mean it was in a comic, but not directly in the comic story. -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 17:06, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Does Hokey have a doll?

We all know a Hokey doll doesn't exist right? Well apparently Hokey was actually planned to have a doll here's the prototype on WorthPoint. -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 09:32, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

It's interesting because it kinda looks like one of these dolls. -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 22:35, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

Treasure Hunt

I feel like those Treasure Hunt episodes should be referenced instead. -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 01:53, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

You can try it that way if you want. -- MisterJames (talk) 11:21, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

Yogi's Gang

I remember him appearing in some episodes, not all, of Yogi's Gang. I'd have to look back at that for his appearances. -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 06:07, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

I only recall his appearances in the episodes "Mr. Fibber" and "Mr. Vandal", I don't recall his other appearances. -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 19:08, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Dell comics

Lol, I laugh every time I see this.

Hokey appeared in a number of issues of the Huckleberry Hound Dell comics as his own comic stories, so maybe Hokey isn't that small as I thought he was. I really should start finishing some of the comic pages (LAL issues, Huck Hound issues, .etc). -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 21:25, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

Harvey Birdman

Under "appearances", should I include his Harvey Birdman appearances? I would assume them to be necessary. -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 17:09, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Yes, you should. :) -- MisterJames (talk) 17:40, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Debut

I've finally found the exact date he debuted on, according to this official calendar (which Joe and Bill had part in), he debuted on September 15th 1960, so Yowp wasn't correct on his debut. -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 21:06, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

Nevermind, Yowp was right. I don't trust any of the cards or calendars. -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 11:00, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

Jellystone!

It's kinda unfortunate Hokey wasn't in the Jellystone! trailer while Ding-a-Ling was. But I'm sure he'll turn up in the series, we know his role won't be mayor though, because they actually gave Huck that role (according to sources). He and Ding don't look like main characters either, so I would assume they would be background characters. -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 20:48, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

JS's out, but oddly no mention from anyone if Hokey appears. I guess until we get evidence if he actually appears or not, we would have to keep the source. BTW Ding-a-Ling seems to be portrayed as a child in this series, maybe he's a student at El Kabong's class? -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 19:24, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

Nevermind, he made a cameo[2]. -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 04:56, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Ages

I can't tell if they go by animal ages or human ages. I'm puzzled on that part. The JS incarnation suggest they go by human ages (e.t. Augie mentioned being 11 years old in one episode), but I'm not sure about the original incarnations for the animal characters. -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 12:25, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

The 1st 13th Annual Fancy Anvil Awards Show Program Special: Live in Stereo

I think we should cover that one because of the tons of HB characters that appeared. -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 04:20, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

I've never even heard of that until now. -- Signed by James (talk) 06:17, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

I found out that existed today actually. -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 06:53, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

I agree. Looks cool. -- Signed by James (talk) 07:24, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

I honestly can't wait to cover it. -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 07:43, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

I'm still trying to think if we should include it under the "appearances" section, if so, it would probably count as a special. -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 02:16, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

I think it should be okay. -- Signed by James (talk) 10:57, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

Mayor

It's hard to believe that he actually became mayor twice, but yeah, it happened. -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 21:22, 7 September 2021 (UTC)