User talk:Snoopy The Dog

Hokey
Does the character page need to be "Hokey Wolf (character)"? Because unlike Scooby-Doo and Jonny Quest that have multiple titles with those names, there's only one Hokey Wolf series beside his name. -- MisterJames (talk) 00:11, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

Great start, BTW. -- MisterJames (talk) 00:12, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

I did do a great start with that. As for Hokey's situation. I think we should just call the character "Hokey Wolf" and call the series "Hokey Wolf (series)". Another one with more than one title is Snagglepuss because, there's the character, the series and the Augie Doggie episode all with the same name. -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 00:18, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

I agree with Snagglepuss. I was wondering about whether or not to call the Hokey series or any series like that as a "TV series" or "series" in the brackets, because they were just shorts within a larger show. -- MisterJames (talk) 00:33, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

I also ask this because I've already linked The Three Musketeers (TV series), like, 40 times, and that technically wasn't strictly a TV series by itself, it was just segments within Banana Splits. -- MisterJames (talk) 01:29, 5 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Yeah, should we just change it to "Hokey Wolf (TV series)" and maybe call every show that shares the same name as something within the universe with "(TV series)" at the end of the name instead of just "(series)" -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 01:38, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
 * You keep on saying "Yogi Bear (segment)", but since we're not doing that with "Hokey Wolf (TV series)", shouldn't we match that? Or is it because there's already The Yogi Bear Show that would be viewed as a Yogi Bear TV series, as well? If we're going to go with "Yogi Bear (segment)" because of the latter reason, then can we at least make it "Yogi Bear (segments)"? Because not having it plural, makes it sound like there's only been one segment. -- MisterJames (talk) 19:50, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
 * It's most likely because Yogi, Boo Boo and Cindy were still using that formatting. -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 20:07, 24 September 2020 (UTC)


 * I cleaned that up. All those links now lead to "Yogi Bear (TV series)" instead of "Yogi Bear (segment)". -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 20:23, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

File descriptions
It pleases me that you're adding descriptions and categories to images, and I thought I wouldn't say anything because at least you were bothering to do something at all. But after seeing the kinda longish description for Top Cat, I thought I'd now bring up how I was doing it, which you may like to do because it's simpler. If you look at File:Top Cat.png, you'll see what I mean. And I've also done variations for series like File:WAY title card.png, for episodes like File:WAY 101 title card.png, and posters like File:Zombie Island poster.jpg. -- MisterJames (talk) 21:00, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Okay, I'll do so next time. -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 21:23, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks. You're doing a great job. Around the World in 79 Days characters were a shock to see. In case the time comes when you add a screenshot to an infobox for an episode, then File:Shiraz_orders_wedding.png may come in hand for future reference, which is to not have any description at all. Personally, I just found it easier that way than having to figure what to say. Although I didn't leave a series/episode link, either, because I also felt that it was easier for the category to act as the reference. You may want to add the series/episode link in yourself, though, and if you do, I can go along with that. -- MisterJames (talk) 21:45, 7 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Okay, I'll keep that in mind - though, it would be better if we atleast mentioned what episode the screenshots came from in the categories. Yeah, I'm uploading character images and creating pages for them later on. I recently created pages for Top Cat, Lambsy and Bristlehound. Check them out and let me know what you think. -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 21:52, 7 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Oh wait, you mentioned the categories idea. Nevermind about what I said than. BTW, I think episodes with the same name as the series should have "(episode)" at the end - for an example, "It's the Wolf (episode)". -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 22:00, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Looks pretty good. Do you think the caption should have both the series and the episode, like at Scooby-Doo (character), or just the episode? I think that's a good idea about "(episode)" being in the title, because Yo, Yogi! comes to mind when I think about that. -- MisterJames (talk) 22:09, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Maybe think of more unique subheadings for each character. But I won't insist upon it. -- MisterJames (talk) 22:09, 7 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I think we should do that with characters like Hokey Wolf, Top Cat, Huckleberry Hound .etc -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 22:31, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

Past tense for dead actors
When you started the character pages, and you added the voice actors in the intro as present tense, but they're no longer with us, so I changed it to past tense. But then I realised that I didn't do it for John Stephenson on Fariik's page. I may have not been thinking about it at the time, or maybe it's okay to be in present tense, regardless if they're alive or not? Like, maybe if a character like Top Cat, who's been voiced by more than one actor, then it makes sense, but if there's a character like Fariik who's only been voiced by one actor, then it can be in present tense? -- MisterJames (talk) 23:13, 7 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I've been keeping that in mind by using past teasers for decreased actors. You can do whatever format to Top Cat's page, I just wanted to start the page up and let details be added. -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 23:56, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Actually I'm okay with it being present tense for dead actors. I think it should only be past tense if another actor comes along. -- Signed by James (talk) 16:33, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

The Yakky Doodle hyphenation
I probably should explain that. I had noticed that in his title card, there looked like there was a dot between his names, which seemed to indicate a hyphenation. I know nobody uses a hyphenation for his name (or even one for "yankee doodle"), but I was wondering if maybe if it was something just bizarrely overlooked, or even bizarrely added by HB? -- MisterJames (talk) 16:54, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
 * His name was mostly spelled as "Yakky Doodle" (even the some of the episode title card s showed us his name). So, it was most likely an error from HB on the main title card. -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 17:11, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

I thought the Yakky image with him out of the bowl was more on character model. -- MisterJames (talk) 19:39, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh! Looks like you were correcting that! Sorry. Then I'm just reinstating that you made a good call changing back. -- MisterJames (talk) 19:40, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

Images take longer to change here than on Fandom, which is a major pain. -- MisterJames (talk) 19:41, 8 September 2020 (UTC)


 * I was wondering why it won't change. Thanks for letting me know about that. I was actually thinking of changing his picture because I didn't like the one I picked before. -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 19:45, 8 September 2020 (UTC)


 * When I said "the one before" I was referring to the one in the bowl. I hope I didn't make a mix up there. -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 20:24, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I thought you meant you still didn't like even the one with him out of the bowl. But things are clearer now. You correctly reverted it to the one with him in front of the fence, it's just gonna take some time for the site to correctly show the fix. -- MisterJames (talk) 20:44, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

Tricks and Treats
Personally, I've avoided linking characters, places, and objects that don't have proper names. It would leave it a bit lacking in a few areas, but I also thought it would just make things easier to focus on articles that would have proper names, instead of dealing with "Farmer," "Janitor," "Scientist," etc. But by you linking Farmer Smith's house, does this mean you're okay with linking pages that don't have actually have proper names (I'm sure there's a more grammatical, sophisticated way of saying that, but that's the best way I can describe it). I understand it's a place of notability within the episode, but in the long run, I'm not sure if it's that important. -- MisterJames (talk) 22:06, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Also, another thing I want to bring up is listing the absolute important of mentioning what items appear, such as vehicles, objects, and locations (and possibly even characters). I may have gone overboard on Fandom, so I don't think we need to go through it like a fine tooth and comb of it all. --MisterJames (talk) 22:10, 9 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Okay, I apologize for that. I was actually thinking about what was important to the objects list. It's important to list the most important stuff and maybe (if it's okay with you) we can remove the link to "Farmer Smith's house". BTW, I listed Farmer Smith as "Farmer Smith (Tricks and Treats)" because, there were other Farmer Smith's who appeared later in the series but are not the same character as this one. -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 23:37, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Cool, I'll remove the link, then. I didn't know there was more than one Farmer Smith out there, so I can't wait to see them all added in the future. -- MisterJames (talk) 23:51, 9 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I'm not exactly sure why more than one Farmer Smith they in counter appeared. But nonetheless, if Hokey's own show was popular enough (which was unlikely) than they might have used Farmer Smith as a recurring character (much like how Ranger Smith first appeared, as multiple rangers appeared in the early Yogi cartoons).


 * I'm having trouble finding info on most of Hokey's cartoons (like who did additional voices and who did some of the artwork). I know Warren Foster wrote the stories and William and Joseph directed the shorts, but it's mostly hard to find efficient information. -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 03:46, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Doesn't the Yowp blog cover all of Hokey's cartoons? -- MisterJames (talk) 10:24, 11 September 2020 (UTC)


 * No, they don't. They did say on the first episode (which is the only episode blog they have on his cartoons) that they won't be doing any other blogs on Hokey episodes. -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 16:09, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I just checked it out, and I see that he isn't interested in the series. I do have something else to say about the air date issue of shorts from The Huckleberry Hound Show and The Yogi Bear Show is that the specific dates don't exist for some reason, he could only pinpoint the weeks, and he had help from expert Earl Kress (I believe), and I think we should go by that. Something I didn't do for Yogi Bear Wiki, but that can always be rectified. But what was odd how on one of his follow up blogs for one of the shorts, he did give a specific date. Maybe he just wasn't thinking at the time, or perhaps felt more confident that this particular short had the correct date since the first time. -- MisterJames (talk) 17:09, 11 September 2020 (UTC)


 * I created the second episode (Hokey Dokey). When I made the page, I just made the three little pigs link share a page. if you find them unnecessary, you can remove the link (But, I feel we can make that page work since that's their official given name). -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 18:44, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I agree. I also don't think they need to be disambiguated. So, even though if they did appear again or before (which I assume is why you obviously disambiguated it), I don't think it's gonna be that much of a big deal to keep all the different versions of the Three Little Pigs on one page. There's also a completely different version of the Three Little Pigs in Dexter's Lab, which I'm just recalling now, but I think they can still share that page. It's the same thing with Dracula, despite the fact each of his appearances aren't the same person.


 * What about going by how the Yowp blog goes with air dates, though? -- MisterJames (talk) 20:06, 11 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I think we should make all of those into one page, have sections for the appearances and information (like in Hokey Dokey) and put a profile picture under each individual section. Yeah, I like the Air dates from Yowp idea. -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 20:49, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

Non-HB shows
It may interest you to know that I had discussed with another editor here that due to all the HB references, that it would be a good idea to have a page for both Family Guy and Robot Chicken (as well as one for Venture Bros. because of mostly Jonny Quest). -- MisterJames (talk) 21:10, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
 * That would be a good idea to have those pages here. I know some occasions where some characters were mentioned in some way (like in the 80s sitcom "ALF" where Yogi and Huck were mentioned in some episodes, but I can't remember the episode names) I do believe Scooby had a long list of references in other television shows. -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 21:22, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I see you started up the Family Guy article. Here's some other HB related stuff that may help:


 * Season 5 episode 3 "Hell Comes to Quahog" parody versions of Yogi and Boo Boo appear in which, Peter brutally kills Yogi using a hunter's knife as a favor to the Park Ranger.
 * Season 9 episode 15 "Brothers & Sisters, Doggie Daddy appears as the third husband of Carol Pewterschmidt; Augie was also mentioned in this episode. -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 00:20, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

ALF
I saw your note on ALF, but I was wondering if this was specifically referring to Huck, because I just looked up the song out of curiosity and it has existed since 1884. -- MisterJames (talk) 17:46, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Since Huck and Yogi were referenced in the series before, I won't be surprised if this was referring to Huck. Also it sounded really he was singing it in a similar way to Huck. -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 17:53, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I just listened to the original version, which was very distinct from Huck's, and since Huck's rendition was probably more well known at that point, I can believe it would do. --MisterJames (talk) 17:57, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

Unnamed characters
I've made this new page to deal with unnamed characters for Scooby-Doo, that can be used for any other series. I would've liked to have done something a little fancier, but I think it will do for now. -- MisterJames (talk) 06:07, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I actually like how it turned out. I should try to use the same format with another HB show (I was thinking maybe Laff-a-Lympics, since I actually do have unnamed characters' pictures on the LaL wiki). -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 07:54, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

On the file pages, could you please link the names to the unnamed pages, so it creates some connectivity? -- MisterJames (talk) 18:21, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Laff-a-Lympics comics
Like an idiot, I'm restoring pages on Scoobypedia to bring back info on Marvel's Laff-a-Lympics, and you have all that stuff on your own wiki! I'm sincerely sorry I didn't trust that you had all of that. I can just rest from Scoobypedia now and remove my status. -- MisterJames (talk) 12:49, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
 * It's most of it alright with a few additional stuff added. I wanted to keep some of the information from being lost.


 * You can actually can use a "preview of content" on the deleted pages so you could try that instead of restoring the whole page. You just simply click on whichever date it was made and then it previews the content (or image). -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 18:28, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I usually just go on the last version. But since I can just go to Laff-a-Lympics Wiki, I don't need to do that now. -- MisterJames (talk) 18:30, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

Scooby Parents and Flintstones Parents
In making the pages for the parents of Mystery Inc., Fred, Wilma, Betty, Barney, I was wondering if they should be, for example, Mr. Jones or Fred's father (and in his case, if the latter was chosen it would have to be Fred's father (Scooby-Doo)), because not every incarnation is consistent, for whatever reason, whether it's because the research hasn't been put in or the writers just want to use their own first names. -- MisterJames (talk) 18:25, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Which ever name is used more would work for them. -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 20:22, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
 * It wouldn't be so problematic for Ed and Edna Flintstone, but in the Hanna-Barbera cartoons for Scooby-Doo, Nedley and Elizabeth Blake were used once, and then they had new names, Barty and Nan, in the Mystery Incorporated 52-episode series, and then they went back to Nedley and Elizabeth for the Daphne and Velma film. -- MisterJames (talk) 20:44, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

File/Image description box
After months of planning to do it, I've finally created this file box to neatly put our information in (based on what was done at Power Master Wiki). I did try and include categories, but I didn't know how to set it to unlimited, but nothing is lost from still adding the categories like we usually do. So, in future if you can add the box for future ulpoads (and possibly add them to previous uploads), I'd appreciate it! Here's my alteration: File:Puppet therapy.png. -- MisterJames (talk) 21:19, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I've actually tried it out on File:Hokey Wolf.png. -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 21:21, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Galleries
I've been reworking on giving the gallery pages a more streamlined presentation, which I tried on Josie/Gallery. What do you think? -- MisterJames (talk) 15:57, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
 * That sounds like a great idea to me. I have made a huge chunk of character galleries myself most of them can be found here. Definitely an upgrade from what we originally had. -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 17:02, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I tried it out on Scooby-Doo (character)/Gallery. How does it look to you? -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 23:07, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Talk page clean ups
I just want you to know that I was okay with what you've added to the talk pages. I can understand why you thought some of it was unnecessary, and of course, I'm not expecting you to return any of it now, but I thought it added some life to the wiki, and given the fact that we're the only ones consistently contributing, it needs all the life it can get. -- MisterJames (talk) 01:30, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm actually aware of that, I don't think I'll be adding those back of course, your welcome to respond to the ones I kept. Most of what I removed went unnecessary (sounded like either arguing or didn't really relate with the subject of the article). I'll definitely be doing more investigating on the talk pages and adding more questions about the subject. BTW, I've asked you this before about how the DVD article layout will go on your talk page, have you figured out how it should go? -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 01:58, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't remember you asking me that. But I'll be sure to think about it more now. It feels like it will be a harder task, so it might take a bit longer. -- MisterJames (talk) 02:11, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Oh, now I remember, it wasn't on your talk page. It was on the Bubba McCoy talk page. -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 02:33, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Let me know whenever you have a DVD article example out. I have a few DVD articles I'm interested in making. -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 04:01, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I made our first DVD page at Paddington Bear: The Complete Series. I was thinking of doing an infobox, but I wasn't sure about the colour. -- MisterJames (talk) 21:52, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Glad you finally made an example page, I'll definitely be using this format in the future, and about the infobox, I think the DVD articles need infoboxes for sure, unfortunately I don't know what color it should be either, but whatever color fits best with you, we'll use it. -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 22:01, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Should we do the same format with VHS articles? -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 22:29, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I never properly thought about how that would look, since VHSes aren't discs. I wouldn't know the correct heading to use, and I think it might help if we created something in general to be used for all formats. Disc subheadings can be added to the DVD pages. -- MisterJames (talk) 23:40, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

I made the infobox. Although I've just realised I didn't put a personal colour to it. I also would've added retail price as a row, but I would've found that difficult finding the correct prices for everything. -- MisterJames (talk) 08:36, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

I changed the contents to "Episodes", as it was the best thing I could think of. -- MisterJames (talk) 08:39, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Okay, I'm fine with that, the infobox looks great so far, I'll try to make a DVD article using this formatting. -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 15:57, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

Episode direction
Currently, in the episode infoboxes, the last episode will have the last episode listed because it's the end of the series, but what about if there's another series, do we acknowledge the next episode, or would that be weird? Like, if "Yogi's Birthday Party" linked to the first episode of Yogi's Gang, or "Don't Fool with a Phantom" had a link to the first episode of The New Scooby-Doo Movies, the last episode of The Flintstones linking to the first episode of The Pebbles and Bamm-Bamm Show, or the last episode of The 13 Ghosts of Scooby-Doo linked to the first episode of A Pup Named Scooby-Doo, those kinds of examples. Like, with Jetsons in the 60s and Jetsons in the 80s, some people consider those the exact same series, so we could easily link both together and it would make sense. -- MisterJames (talk) 14:53, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I never actually put much thought into that, we could try that format (if it actually works). So I'd say yes, we'll give it a try, I've also been wondering if we should imply by series appearance two, for example, after Huckleberry's last episode of his series, should we include his appearances with Yogi or just have his own film appearance? -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 16:42, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I thought about that with "Yogi's Birthday Party" linking to Hey There, It's Yogi Bear! But ultimately, I think episodes should link to episodes. -- MisterJames (talk) 17:20, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I would also say LAL could partly be any characters show (who was mainstream), for example, it could partly be Snagglepuss' show or Mildew's show, so after the last It's the Wolf episode, I would definitely like to add "The Swiss Alps and Tokyo, Japan" on the navigation, but not have any episode on the previous navigation for the LAL episode. -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 18:47, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Should we start connecting the episode links? I don't exactly know about comic though, I would say the LAL and pretty much any Hokey comic are not canon to the original show, and so, they wouldn't count. -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 19:21, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

I'm glad we can include Jellystone! to the Yogi episode lineup, I'm wondering if we should go by character appearance, like for an example, have "Aladdin's Lamb Chops" link to Hokey/or Ding's next series appearance on the navigation (not including "Yogi's Birthday Party" listed there), I mean after their original show was over, they came to become characters of the Yogi franchise. -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 05:17, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

Appearances list
I was thinking of a better way to treat the Appearances section of the major players so we could list the episodes as well, either by putting in a hide option or making a separate page like "Scooby-Doo (character)/Appearances." -- Signed by James (talk) 16:37, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
 * That sounds like a good idea. Another thing we might be able to add is if the character spoke or not in the episode, I would go with the hide option. -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 18:05, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I applied the hide option. I'm in the middle of adding all the episodes to each series as you'll see at Scooby-Doo (character). -- Signed by James (talk) 21:40, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Looks great, I'll add in the LAL appearances too. -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 21:52, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I added them in, hope that helped :) -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 22:09, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I wondered where that came from, LOL. We should do the same with the comic issues as well. -- Signed by James (talk) 22:20, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Yeah, we definitely should. I found out not too long ago that Hokey actually spoke at least once in every LAL issue. -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 22:38, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

Reevaluated
I've been thinking about the non-HB stuff we're covering, that we're finding loopholes and stuff, when we're basically just flatout ignoring what isn't Hanna-Barbera and what was never Hanna-Barbera. I proposed to you that we dismiss Robot Jones and Billy & Mandy because even though their pilots were produced by Hanna-Barbera, their proper series were done by Cartoon Network Studios, which made them feel more like separate entities. This doesn't really fit in with what we're already covering that isn't Hanna-Barbera and what we plan on covering that isn't Hanna-Barbera. In the case of Thundarr, he's become a sort of an honorary HB character, but just because Warner Bros. Archive sticks Hanna-Barbera's name on the likes of Chuck Norris or Mister T DVDs, doesn't technically make them Hanna-Barbera cartoons. So, I'd say if we're allowing Tom and Jerry and other MGM cartoons simply because of their association with Hanna-Barbera and/or Bill & Joe, and then Thundarr and certain others like Mister T and Chuck Norris, then I'd say, "What the hell," let's cover Robot Jones and Billy & Mandy (which most of the time Billy & Mandy has so many Hanna-Barbera tributes, that it feels like a lost HB cartoon, which may come from the fact that it was simply aired on Cartoon Network, but its pilot was produced by HB). I also want to take this opportunity to bring up Mike Tyson Mysteries, which is really out there, but it's majorly influenced by Hanna-Barbera. It's also produced by Warner Bros. and airs on Adult Swim. -- Signed by James (talk) 18:44, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I think it makes sense to cover them on some occasions. I mean, we're already covering some stuff outside of the company, yet has some connections (like Family Guy and Robot Chicken), so what the heck, I agree, let's cover 'em. -- Snoopy The Dog (talk) 18:52, 29 July 2021 (UTC)