User talk:MisterJames

Hey there!
Welcome to your new Hanna-Barbera Wiki! Some things probably look a little underdone at the moment, so here's some more things I need your help setting up: You have been given administrative rights to handle site content, and you are free to bring some others on board to help. Once you feel the wiki is ready for the public, please let me know.
 * Wiki logo
 * Favicon icon
 * Questions and answers for a more secure CAPTCHA (no apostrophes)

If you have any questions regarding extensions or other maintenance, please post on my talk page so I get the notification. :) Alex95 (talk) 22:21, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Hey! I'll try and check out Discord again, in the meantime, I'm here at FB: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100009191662531. I know this is a really stupid question, but where do I make a page? I never got this on Wikipedia either. The whole thing seems hidden. -- MisterJames (talk) 22:24, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm still getting a message that I can't create a new page when choosing new section. -- MisterJames (talk) 22:25, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
 * To make a page, you would search for it in the search bar or go to Special:Search. Obviously, there will be no results at the moment, so clicking the containing search option will bring you to the Special:Search, where it will tell you the page does not exist. Clicking the red link will allow you to create the page (you'll immediately enter page creation every time you click a red link). With your admin roles, you should be able to create it. I've specifically granted the sysop role to be able to do everything an autoconfirmed user can, in case you weren't able to do this before for some reason.
 * Users will be able to create a page after having an account for a week and after making ten edits.
 * I'll be checking in frequently these next few days, posting on my talk page is just a way to get a hold of me easier. Alex95 (talk) 22:33, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Currently, the only people that can edit are those with an account. If you want to, I can restrict editing to just admins, but that may worsen your user base and keep out the users that do want to help. It's not recommended. One of the things I need to set up is a captcha with questions (called QuestyCaptcha). If you can give me questions and answers to input, that would tighten security. Alex95 (talk) 15:50, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Ok, we'll see what happens for now. Am I allowed to promote people? Not sure how many questions you need, but I'll give some:
 * Question 1: What is the middle name of Scooby? It's Dooby (not originally, but now is considered pretty much in Monsters Unleashed, SDMI, and SCOOB!)
 * Question 2: Who plays Fred Flintstone in the 1994 film? (John Goodman)
 * Question 3: What is the surname given to Hadji in The Real Adventures? (Singh). -- MisterJames (talk) 16:34, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
 * You are allowed to promote whoever you want, that sort of thing is handled by the wiki content staff, which at point consists of only you.
 * Those are good questions, I only know the first one :P Alex95 (talk) 19:52, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

Letting you know you are welcome to share the wiki within your community. Having more people to help work on it would lighten the workload :) Alex95 (talk) 19:19, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I actually did ask a question on how they'd like to something. I don't think I'm quite ready, not sure when. Probably when it's got somewhere where I feel comfortable with it. -- MisterJames (talk) 19:21, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

Congrats!
Just dropped by to say congrats on your new wiki! :) Results May Vary (talk) 01:19, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I appreciate your assist. - -MisterJames (talk) 01:33, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
 * No problem :) Out of curiosity, what are the rules for copying over content? It seems as if we're manually starting new pages (e.g. Scooby-Doo) but copying over others, such as Scooby-Doo (franchise)‎‎? Results May Vary (talk) 01:44, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh, god. I tried transferring the franchise page and downloaded it, but didn't know what to do, so I just copy/pasted it, then altered some stuff. I did want to make templates for "Main" and "Reflist", but hit a snag with it. The movie pages I would attempt to transfer if I wasn't so unsure of what to do (even if they would look a little different afterwards, as I want to distance myself from Scoobypedia and improve upon my work). -- MisterJames (talk) 01:49, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure how much is really worth transferring over, when a lot of it I want redoing anyway. -- MisterJames (talk) 01:54, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Are you using Visual or Source mode on Scoobypedia? Results May Vary (talk) 01:56, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Source. -- MisterJames (talk) 01:57, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Ah the source can be copied (at least for me), but the categories have to be manually inserted. Results May Vary (talk) 03:38, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

Deleted wiki?
What was your deleted wiki on FANDOM, out of curiosity. Why was it deleted? Results May Vary (talk) 21:32, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
 * An MCU wiki (which if you ever feel like transferring over if Grifkuba, I wouldn't mind, but won't hold you to it! ;) LOL.) What happened was is that the pages were suddenly gone and I also thought mine had been redirected to another one (what I ended up realising I was clicking onto a link to this other one, which I'm embarrassed to admit, although I'm also not really sure what happened there, it's all a blur). The original link I had been using to the home page had been redirected to go to an invalid page on Community Central. I was in desperate need to get in contact with someone even going to Discord (which only further put me off the chat when they said they couldn't deal with it, it seemed as useless as CC's old, regular chat), and when I finally got in touch with the right person, one who answered, he'd told me it was fixed. I don't know what was fixed about it, because that home link still was going to an invalid page, but I found the site through another link I had (one which if I had done to begin with, the problem may not have been as big, but that still didn't change the fact what had happened with the home link).


 * So, I have the site back now (if it ever went), and had to bookmark what seems the exact same home link again, somehow. If it sounds confusing, because it is. I felt messed around with, and it just got me thinking back to how all those years ago, I wanted to leave Scoobypedia and go to an independent host that would take me. After giving up on that idea, I ended up also dealing with other HB-themed wikis (such as Flintstones and Jonny Quest), some of which I adopted, because FANDOM just seemed the way to go as I had no other option. I was never really into dealing with the Hanna-Barbera Wiki FANDOM hosted (even tho I did a few edits there). I didn't want to fully commit to it because I wasn't sure I wanted one entire HB site to work on (I preferred it to be individual) and I didn't like the guy who ended up in charge, because of an altercation I had with him on what you could describe a rival Jetsons wiki. I left the one he had been able to adopt, while I moved onto another one that someone else created then abandoned. At the time of being on the original Jetsons wiki, I used my own style replaced what was done there (nobody questioned it), then used that same style on the other Jetsons wiki. I thought I was being nice about it that he should go back to that original style, so we didn't match, but he unfortunately took it the wrong way and was rather rude. So, now we come to the present, where I've decided that I would like to cover all of Hanna-Barbera Wiki in a way I can handle. But I don't want to make it seem like I'm not a team player or anything, because I am, I want harmony and collaborations as much as possible, but at the same time, I just believe I can do better here, with people I know I can trust and build something more worthwhile, IMHO. Sorry for this rather long response that just came out, it just seemed better to put it all in context to how I got here. -- MisterJames (talk) 22:51, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Ah quite a story, thank you for telling me. By the way I can back up that MCU wiki of yours, just for safekeeping. Results May Vary (talk) 23:34, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
 * That's very generous of you, thanks. -- MisterJames (talk) 23:43, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

New user?
Out of curiosity, who is AlexandraCabot? Results May Vary (talk) 17:26, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
 * A friend who was also called Muddlemore on Scoobypedia, so it's a theme. We talked on Twitter and still on FB. -- MisterJames (talk) 17:38, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

Logo
I cant help but feel that the logo looks too small. The conventional display is 150x150px. Here's my version if you want to use it: https://i.imgur.com/gG737pb.png Results May Vary (talk) 20:44, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the advice and uploaded the new size. Is this something that will adjust in time or do I have to tell Alex for it to formally change? -- MisterJames (talk) 05:46, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Looks like it's been changed! Results May Vary (talk) 08:14, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

Checklist
Hello. Got a checklist of things that should happen for Hanna-Barbera Wiki.


 * Main page needs to represent what to expect on the wiki. It's already off to a good start.*
 * Favicon.*
 * Trello card system for keeping track of what needs done (it will be grouped with our own list).
 * Templates being replaced with Lua coding: https://www.lua.org/.
 * Help:Contents page or something similar (sidebar currently links to MediaWiki's general help page, when it should be wiki-specific).*
 * Discord notifications, if you have a Discord to send them to.
 * Echo extension, for notifications like your edit being undone, sending thanks, etc.: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Echo (for example, this system exists on Inkipedia: https://splatoonwiki.org/wiki/Main_Page).
 * Google Rich Cards (those box results that show in Google when you search for something).

None of this is required, except for those marked with (*), and we won't force you to change anything you don't want to. If you have questions, let me know :) Alex95 (talk) 17:48, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I have a few ideas for the main page, but I'm not very good with designing. I made a few "hints", but so far nothing. I guess I could always ask the guy who made the logo for help. He's also signed up. Unfortunately, even though I have informed people of the site, there's only been a few people signed up. I don't think it's a high priority at the moment for any of them, but hopefully that will change. It's still early days. Arthur Wiki was completely carried over with the some of the same people who were eager to contribute. As far as the other stuff goes, I have no idea what they all technically do (except for Discord, which I don't think is necessary atm), but if they make the site better, than I agree. Unless I'm actually supposed to implement this stuff myself, than that will quite likely be impossible for to do. -- MisterJames (talk) 18:05, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
 * The ones with asterisks are stuff the editors (being you and others) handle, as well as the template coding if you want. Not having a Discord is acceptable. The Echo and Rich Cards aren't necessary, the first just gives you notifications for edit undoing and allows thanking other users (I personally don't use it) and Rich Cards are kind of just a flashy thing. Alex95 (talk) 22:02, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm trying to get help with the favicon and the main page. -- MisterJames (talk) 00:56, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

A silly song
Not sure if you've heard of a satirical song called Cartoons, which is if Flintstones went to heaven. More info: Wikipedia article. Theres quite a bit of Hanna Barbera references so i thought i'd link :P Results May Vary (talk) 19:00, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
 * That's the first I've heard of it. It's pretty good. Thanks. -- MisterJames (talk) 19:35, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you, should we make a page of it on this wiki? several of the references are from Hanna Barbera cartoons & the song was notable to have its own Wikipedia article. Scrooge200 was wondering this himself. Results May Vary (talk) 00:34, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm honestly not sure. I was surprised this even got a Wikipedia page, yet it can't have a page on Marvel Frost Fright, but that's just me. How well is it really perceived by the general public? The same way the Epic Rap Battles are? It's interesting that the guy who did this song doesn't even have this mentioned on his Wikipedia page. At least I didn't see it mentioned. There also seems to be some conflict, because it's supposed to be written in 1989, yet the page says it has references to Beavis & Butthead. -- MisterJames (talk) 08:14, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Good point, and I have a feeling that Wikipedia has some false info on this song. I'm actually unsure myself -- I just thought it would be a weird page to have on the wiki. :P Results May Vary (talk) 00:30, 28 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Okay, I got an update on the song: it's a hidden track on Chris Rice's "Past the Edges" album, which released in 1998. Results May Vary (talk) 18:46, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
 * By the way, am I allowed to keep this subpage? (I saved the page locally in case if it's not allowed). I wanted to preserve my research of the Cartoons song, even if it is not completely related to Hanna-Barbera. Results May Vary (talk) 20:04, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
 * You can keep it. I think that's fair enough for now. -- MisterJames (talk) 20:18, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Do you find the research interesting? Results May Vary (talk) 20:35, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'm glad you put the research in, I found it more informative than what Wikipedia had. -- MisterJames (talk) 21:50, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

Greetings!
Hello! My name is tacopill, and I help run grifkuba from various ends. I was wondering if I could request a page be made, that links to our other wikis. Entirely up to you on how you want to organize it.

Here are some examples of how it could look like:
 * https://rarewiki.com/wiki/Rare_Wiki:Affiliates
 * https://starfoxwiki.info/wiki/Lylat_Wiki:Affiliates

Not a requirement from us, just something to help all the wikis connect to each other.

Thank you for your time, Tacopill (talk) 19:08, 13 May 2020 (UTC).
 * Okay. I'll think on that. -- MisterJames (talk) 19:22, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Video games?
Are we allowed to have pages of video games with Hanna-Barbera IPs or with a significant amount of the content bearing Hanna-Barbera related (let's say, Cartoon Network games). Results May Vary (talk) 00:11, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't know every game, but if you can play the characters, then I don't see why not. -- MisterJames (talk) 08:40, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm talking about like Flintstones or Scooby Doo ones as well. I assume those can also get a page? Results May Vary (talk) 20:32, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes. -- MisterJames (talk) 11:35, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Okay, so here's the first one: Scooby-Doo! Night of 100 Frights. Note the scoobypedia template & some other things. i just wanted to show you how i'd make it, but ultimately the decision on what to do is your own Results May Vary (talk) 19:59, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
 * It's a good start. I like the infobox, I wasn't entirely sure if I wanted that or how I wanted it to look. I may think about implementing that to other areas. But I also did have my ideas on how to set it apart, though. Especially just keeping it all on one page, as I've watched how those levels operate, and it would just be too much to handle here, as it is over there. -- MisterJames (talk) 21:18, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

I don't really think its necessary with the Scoobypedia template. Bits here and there have been copied, but this is free to distribute stuff, anyway, so I wouldn't want the template getting in the way of how the page looks. I plan on asking Simon, who added a synopsis of SCOOB! to Scoobypedia, because it's a lot of work. In that case it would be suitable, but not for every little detail. -- MisterJames (talk) 23:28, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

I'm really sorry, but I had to delete it. At first I tried to work away around what you copied, but then I couldn't put my all into with how I would want it to look, not without giving it a major overhaul, and I'm not ready to do that. I tried to look at it in the perspective that the video games would inevitably have to be different in some ways, but I'm just not sure what that is yet. The categories need to be in alphabetical order, too, and there doesn't really need to be an exclamation mark in "Scooby-Doo." I really like the infobox, though. I would've also put the box art cover in there, though. -- MisterJames (talk) 23:55, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
 * it's ok i was just trying to show you my idea. Results May Vary (talk) 00:02, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
 * also yeah i could try and cobble up something quickly for other infoboxesResults May Vary (talk) 00:02, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Ok done, check Template:Infobox episode and Template:Infobox movie. Results May Vary (talk) 01:29, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Alright there we go, I fixed up the Infobox template too. the caption is now displayed below the image, and the the title card can be shown at the very bottom of infobox if willing. :) Results May Vary (talk) 18:24, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks, buddy. -- MisterJames (talk) 18:26, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
 * No problem, glad you're liking the wiki. :) Also, if you want, i could be promoted to admin & interface admin for short while to help you with some basic site layout & design to improve the wiki's look. Results May Vary (talk) 18:29, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
 * If you'd like. Things are going a bit slow on that front. Although I have been talking with "Alexander Cabot" about the main page. -- MisterJames (talk) 18:34, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Sure. Also one other suggestion is the recent changes. Bit of a long story, so I'll talk about it here. I really dont like when mediawiki changed their recent changes look, so i was wondering if you felt the same & it could be reverted to the older recent changes. Results May Vary (talk) 18:38, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Another thing I want to notify you about is that I might show signs of inactivity because I have other main wikis to work on & I'm mostly here to help set up and perhaps make some video game articles, as that's my main specialty. Results May Vary (talk) 18:42, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Can you make this look better? Scooby Doo and a Mummy, Too -- MisterJames (talk) 19:59, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I'll take a look Results May Vary (talk) 20:17, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Ok check the page now. The problem was that i didnt format the title card part of the template properly. Results May Vary (talk) 20:44, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Favicon
I had an idea for a favicon for the site, if you want to ask Alex to add this: https://i.imgur.com/prOghbT.png Results May Vary (talk) 18:48, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh, that's nice. Yes, please. -- MisterJames (talk) 19:10, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Favicon has been added. If there's any issues with it, let me know. Sometimes it gets a little buggy. :) Alex95 (talk) 20:56, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Sidebar
You know the sidebar on the left side? You can modify it from MediaWiki:Sidebar. Results May Vary (talk) 03:18, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Re:
So basically a previous/next episode/movie navigation, correct? Results May Vary (talk) 19:26, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Indeed. -- MisterJames (talk) 19:38, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Okay, give it a try now. See here for changes I did. Results May Vary (talk) 23:53, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you. But is there any way in making them in equal length? The "previous" row comes off shorter. I'd like it to not be paired off with the other regular left sided rows. -- MisterJames (talk) 10:56, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Ah I did not notice that. It should be fixed now. Results May Vary (talk) 16:58, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Captcha update
I noticed the captcha has been having issues on several wikis, including here, that caused it to not display properly. I updated some of the code and it should only effect anons and new users. You do not appear to have been having any issues with this recently, but if a problem does come up, let me know on my talk page. :) Alex95 (talk) 18:24, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Re: Color guide

 * I could help with that. Do you mean something like this? Or a color that is designated for a character, game, movie, object, etc.? 23:29, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah, the former. The best example I could give is https://youngjustice.fandom.com/wiki/Independence_Day_(pilot), although really identical. I don't really want it all numbered like that, just something simple. I think I would like it so a particular colour could run through a character if need be. -- MisterJames (talk) 00:34, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Okay, so I know maybe a few changes could be possibly made, but here is what I got: Hanna-Barbera Wiki:Sandbox. What do you think? Results May Vary (talk) 18:08, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I wasn't entirely sure, but it's growing on me. The table probably makes more sense to highlight this stuff than without it. I just would like the addition of a mentioned colour for the character that would fill out the length of both rows and a non-speaking colour that would go in the voice actor row. -- MisterJames (talk) 11:17, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
 * So a key for "mentioned", you're saying? Results May Vary (talk) 16:52, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes. -- MisterJames (talk) 08:40, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Okay, check Template:Legend. How does that look (the "Mentioned" bit)? Results May Vary (talk) 15:34, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Looks good. We don't need "Episode debut" bit. -- MisterJames (talk) 20:46, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Scratch that. The Hex Girls were in a movie before they were in an episode, so that would still work. -- MisterJames (talk) 13:28, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Could we make this official yet? -- MisterJames (talk) 22:37, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

What you have now seems good to me, though I'm curious how you plan to use it, as it doesn't look like it has any additional parameters for the template. How are you thinking this would look? Alex95 (talk) 01:09, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Similar to what I linked to Young Justice Wiki. Do you think there will be a problem? -- MisterJames (talk) 08:33, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
 * No, I don't think there will be a major problem. Template just looks incomplete, so I'm not sure how you plan on having it function. Alex95 (talk) 20:11, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
 * If you look at the Hanna-Barbera Wiki:Sandbox, that's how it will function. I guess I could just turn it into something official myself. For whatever reason, I just thought I needed further help. -- MisterJames (talk) 22:52, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I need to be able to make it more simpler for use in an official capacity, and less manual like it is in the sandbox. -- MisterJames (talk) 22:53, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
 * On the Young Justice Wiki it has the first appearance colour as its own template, as well. -- MisterJames (talk) 23:10, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

I've started using it. If you look at Teen Wolf's Family Secret, there's a gap formed between the header and the legend box. How can this be fixed. -- MisterJames (talk) 00:42, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, sorry, I don't check this wiki a lot.
 * I see what you mean now, yeah. As for the gap, I see no real problem with it, but you can put the noinclude information of the template immediately after the "In order of appearance:" bit rather than on the next line down. Alex95 (talk) 03:24, 6 July 2020 (UTC)